From sacadmin Fri Feb 25 14:59:49 2005 Received: from sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sfbaymail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.42]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j1PMxnSp002250 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:59:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (pkg.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.91.150]) by sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id j1PMwVAH005310; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:58:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (noho [10.6.92.101]) by dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1PMwUvZ012558; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:58:30 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <421FAD96.3030905@sun.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 14:58:30 -0800 From: David Kahn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Landy Kweh , FWARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com CC: sun4v-iteam@sun.com Subject: FWARC 2005/111 - sun4v bus binding -- materials available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 197 Materials are available for this case in the inception.materials subdir of the case directory. sun4v-binding.txt - the spec interface-table.txt - interface table 18q.txt - FWARC's questionaire From sacadmin Fri Feb 25 15:05:17 2005 Received: from sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sfbaymail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.42]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j1PN5HSp002491 for ; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:05:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (pkg.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.91.150]) by sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id j1PN3xAH008299; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:03:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (noho [10.6.92.101]) by dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j1PN3wvZ013053; Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:03:59 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <421FAEDE.8050207@sun.com> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 15:03:58 -0800 From: David Kahn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Landy Kweh CC: FWARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com, sun4v-iteam@sun.com Subject: Re: FWARC 2005/111 - sun4v virtual console device binding -- materials available References: <421FAD96.3030905@sun.com> In-Reply-To: <421FAD96.3030905@sun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 388 Materials are available for this case in the inception.materials subdir of the case directory. console.txt - the spec Note, this is a fast-track case. If somebody wants to sponsor it, please update the IAM file and start the timer. The virtual console device is a specific instance of a 'virtual-devices' child node. 'virtual-devices' is defined in the sun4v bindings case. -David From sacadmin Fri Mar 4 17:57:21 2005 Received: from noho.SFBay.Sun.COM (noho [10.6.92.101]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j251vLSp029295 for ; Fri, 4 Mar 2005 17:57:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from noho.SFBay.Sun.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by noho.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.0+Sun/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j251twcS002569; Fri, 4 Mar 2005 17:55:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dmk@localhost) by noho.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.0+Sun/8.13.0/Submit) id j251twmY002568; Fri, 4 Mar 2005 17:55:58 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2005 17:55:58 -0800 (PST) From: David Kahn Message-Id: <200503050155.j251twmY002568@noho.SFBay.Sun.COM> To: David.Kahn@sun.com, FWARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com, Landyana.Kweh@sun.com Subject: Re: FWARC 2005/111 - sun4v bus binding -- materials available Cc: sun4v-iteam@sun.com Status: RO Content-Length: 471 The sun4v-binding.txt document has been updated. The definition of the cpuid used in core-api calls has been moved into the core api case (2005/116). It uses the same defintion as devhandle (config-hi bits as a unique id.) The cpuid property has been deleted. -David >Materials are available for this case in the inception.materials >subdir of the case directory. > >sun4v-binding.txt - the spec >interface-table.txt - interface table >18q.txt - FWARC's questionaire From sacadmin Wed Mar 9 17:40:17 2005 Received: from sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.154.35]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2A1eHSp004574 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 17:40:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (pkg.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.90.56]) by sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id j2A1cpjg000794 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 17:38:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (noho [10.6.92.101]) by dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2A1coKw015955 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 17:38:50 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <422FA529.9020603@sun.com> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 17:38:49 -0800 From: David Kahn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FWARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com Subject: 2005/111 - sun4v binding updated Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 146 I added three imported client interfaces in section 9 at the end of the document. Other than that, there were no other changes. Thanks, David From sacadmin Wed Mar 9 19:12:30 2005 Received: from sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.154.35]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2A3CUSp010303 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 19:12:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (pkg.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.90.56]) by sfbaymail1sca.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id j2A3B4jg001268 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 19:11:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (noho [10.6.92.101]) by dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2A3B3Kw021198 for ; Wed, 9 Mar 2005 19:11:03 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <422FBAC6.5090609@sun.com> Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 19:11:02 -0800 From: David Kahn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FWARC@sac.sfbay.sun.com Subject: Re: 2005/111 - open issues References: <422FA529.9020603@sun.com> In-Reply-To: <422FA529.9020603@sun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 607 There are two known issues with the sun4v bindings. I don't want us to waste any more time than we have to on these at the meeting on Monday, and it should be possible to approve this case without these interfaces. 1. SUNW,set-trap-table .. the cif has another argument for the miss area. This will be fast-tracked in later. The sun4v version has an additional argument for the miss area. 2. An unamed cif for dealing with HV API versioning negotiation via OBP with the hypervisor. This will be fast-tracked in later. It doesn't exist yet. Details need to be worked out on this. -David From sacadmin Thu Mar 10 16:28:28 2005 Received: from sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sfbaymail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.42]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2B0SSSp025256 for ; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:28:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (pkg.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.90.56]) by sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id j2B0R1AH014563; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:27:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (noho [10.6.92.101]) by dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2B0R0Kw085198; Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:27:00 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4230E5D3.40505@sun.com> Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:26:59 -0800 From: David Kahn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fwarc@sac.sfbay.sun.com CC: sun4v-iteam@sun.com Subject: FWARC/2005/111 - sun4v bindings materials update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 395 Based on some feedback from Hitendra, I updated the materials for this case. The current version of the spec is v1.14. If you don't see 1.14 in the sccs ident line in the spec, hit reload. 1. Deleted "mmuid" property - it's not needed in v1. 2. Added SUNW,retain to imported client interfaces in section 9. And a few other minor typos and clarifications requested by Hitendra. -David From sacadmin Mon Mar 14 10:50:16 2005 Received: from phys-san-2 (phys-san-2.West.Sun.COM [129.153.85.71]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2EIoGSp019079 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:50:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.san-mail1.west.sun.com by san-mail1.west.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IDC00201UMG14@san-mail1.west.sun.com> (original mail from hitendra.zhangada@sun.com) for fwarc@sac.sfbay.sun.com; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:48:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from [129.153.85.35] (sr1-usan-05.West.Sun.COM [129.153.85.35]) by san-mail1.west.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTPA id <0IDC000KSUXARH@san-mail1.west.sun.com>; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:48:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 10:48:46 -0800 From: Hitendra Zhangada Subject: Issues: FWARC/2005/111 - sun4v bindings materials update In-reply-to: <4230E5D3.40505@sun.com> To: fwarc@sac.sfbay.sun.com Cc: sun4v-iteam@sun.com Reply-to: hitendra.zhangada@sun.com Message-id: <4235DC8E.1090005@sun.com> Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.7.5) Gecko/20041229 References: <4230E5D3.40505@sun.com> Status: RO Content-Length: 1370 I have couple of issues to discuss. 1. Nit, section 2.2.1.3. Unit Address Representation provides examples which includes "/cmp@100". Since cmp nodes does not exists under sun4v architecture we may want to not mention CMP anywhere in the document. I suggest changing "/cmp@100" to "cpu@100". Also, the section 1.1, reference [6] can be deleted on the same basis as above. Since CPU or chip topology is not included in device tree (as per section 5.1) nothing is imported from the CMP bindings. 2. Section 9.1.2 mentions that cpuid is 28-bit quantity. This is significantly large value then what we have dealt with in past. E.g., the cpuid for UltraSPARC-III, III+, IV, etc. is just 10 bits. What I would like to know (more of a curiosity) is how sun4v Solaris uses the cpuid. Are the CPU related structures based on the 28 bit CPUIDs? Is NCPU 28 bit quantity? May be concept of NCPU does not exist in sun4v Solaris. I would like brief discussion on this at the meeting. That's all. David has taken cared of all of my other comments last week. Thanks. -- Hitendra Zhangada ==================================== SPS Common SW Features Engineering Scalable Systems Group, Sun Microsystems, Inc. Sun Ph# (858) 625 3757, Sun Ext. x53757 Internal homepage http://esp.west/~hitu From sacadmin Mon Mar 14 11:46:59 2005 Received: from sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (sfbaymail2sca.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.145.155.42]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2EJkwSp025257 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:46:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (pkg.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.90.56]) by sfbaymail2sca.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id j2EJjTAH003487; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:45:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (noho [10.6.92.101]) by dtmail.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j2EJjSha031132; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:45:28 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <4235E9D8.6030701@sun.com> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 11:45:28 -0800 From: David Kahn User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Hitendra Zhangada CC: fwarc@sac.sfbay.sun.com, sun4v-iteam@sun.com Subject: Re: Issues: FWARC/2005/111 - sun4v bindings materials update Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 1772 Even though this is a real nit, since it's just an example of the unit-address represenation in the address formats section of the document, I changed it from "cmp" to "cpu" and deleted reference [6]. As far as question 2 is concerned, you'll have to ask the OS folks. I'm sure they are *not* setting NCPU to 2**28 for version 1, which only supports Niagara/Ontario. As I mentioned to you previously, the OS is free to use the cpuid anyway it sees fit, as long as it arranges to use that value in HV API calls where a cpuid is required. -David Hitendra Zhangada wrote: > I have couple of issues to discuss. > > 1. Nit, section 2.2.1.3. Unit Address Representation > provides examples which includes "/cmp@100". Since > cmp nodes does not exists under sun4v architecture > we may want to not mention CMP anywhere in the document. > I suggest changing "/cmp@100" to "cpu@100". > > Also, the section 1.1, reference [6] can be deleted on > the same basis as above. Since CPU or chip topology > is not included in device tree (as per section 5.1) nothing > is imported from the CMP bindings. > > 2. Section 9.1.2 mentions that cpuid is 28-bit quantity. > This is significantly large value then what we have > dealt with in past. E.g., the cpuid for UltraSPARC-III, > III+, IV, etc. is just 10 bits. > > What I would like to know (more of a curiosity) is how > sun4v Solaris uses the cpuid. Are the CPU related structures > based on the 28 bit CPUIDs? Is NCPU 28 bit quantity? > May be concept of NCPU does not exist in sun4v Solaris. > > I would like brief discussion on this at the meeting. > > > That's all. David has taken cared of all of my other comments > last week. > > > Thanks. > From sacadmin Mon Mar 14 14:24:54 2005 Received: from sunmail3.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail3.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.149.247.180]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2EMOsSp014203 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:24:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from jurassic.eng.sun.com (jurassic.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.89.50]) by sunmail3.sfbay.sun.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id j2EMNNg00868; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:23:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from Sun.COM (sr1-umpk-19.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.146.11.205]) by jurassic.eng.sun.com (8.13.3+Sun/8.13.3) with ESMTP id j2EMNLCl714838; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:23:23 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <42360ED9.5050306@Sun.COM> Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:23:21 -0800 From: Landy Burnett Reply-To: Landyana.Burnett@Sun.COM User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; en-US; rv:1.4) Gecko/20041214 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: fwarc-members@Sun.COM, James Barnette Jr , Holly Yang , Minh Nguyen , sun4v-iteam@Sun.COM Subject: FWARC Meeting Minutes 03/15/2005 Inception: 2005/111 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Status: RO Content-Length: 414 Hello, Meeting minutes from today's meeting is available at: http://sac.sfbay.sun.com/ARC/FWARC/2005/111/20050315 Audio: http://sac.sfbay.sun.com/ARC/FWARC/2005/111/20050315.2005.111.inception.mp3 thanks, landy - -- Landyana Burnett landyana.burnett@sun.com Program Manager, System Architecture 650.786.3664 Sun Microsystems, Inc. ======================================================================= From sacadmin Mon Mar 14 16:28:55 2005 Received: from sunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM (sunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.62.17]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2F0StSp025445 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:28:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from westmail2san.west.sun.com (westmail2san.West.Sun.COM [129.153.85.6]) by sunmail1brm.Central.Sun.COM (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id j2F0RP219445; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:27:25 -0700 (MST) Received: from phys-san-2 (phys-san-2.West.Sun.COM [129.153.85.71]) by westmail2san.west.sun.com (8.12.10+Sun/8.12.10/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id j2F0RP69029169; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:27:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from conversion-daemon.san-mail1.west.sun.com by san-mail1.west.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) id <0IDD00H01AHF6I@san-mail1.west.sun.com> (original mail from ysun@san-mail1.West.sun.com); Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:27:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from san-mail1.West.Sun.COM (esun1as-be21.Central.Sun.COM [129.147.60.150]) by san-mail1.west.sun.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.24 (built Dec 19 2003)) with ESMTP id <0IDD005PQALJN0@san-mail1.west.sun.com>; Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:27:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2005 16:35:08 -0800 From: ysun@san-mail1.west.sun.com Subject: closed approved fast-track: 2005/111 - sun4v bus bindings To: fwarc@sun.com, sun4v-iteam@sun.com Reply-to: ysun@west.sun.com Message-id: <0IDD005PTALLN0@san-mail1.west.sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sun NetMail 2.3 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Status: RO Content-Length: 757 We reviewed this case today at the FWARC meeting. All of the issues raised have been addressed by David Kahn. See the issue file at: http://sac.sfbay.sun.com/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2005/111/issues At the meeting we took vote on converting and approving this case as a fast-track. This case is now approved. The final specification, interface table and 18Q are available at, http://sac.sfbay.sun.com/Archives/CaseLog/arc/FWARC/2005/111/final.materials/ Please note that even though this case is approved it can not be delivered into a consolidation until after the case this case depends upon is approved by FWARC. The dependency includes following FWARC case, FWARC/2005/116 - sun4v hypervisor core API IAM file has been updated. Yanmin From sacadmin Fri Mar 25 14:50:14 2005 Received: from sunmail2.sfbay.sun.com (sunmail2.SFBay.Sun.COM [129.149.246.180]) by sac.sfbay.sun.com (8.12.9+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j2PMoDSp012621 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:50:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from noho.SFBay.Sun.COM (noho.SFBay.Sun.COM [10.6.92.101]) by sunmail2.sfbay.sun.com (8.11.7p1+Sun/8.11.7/ENSMAIL,v2.2) with ESMTP id j2PMmbw18292 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:48:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from noho.SFBay.Sun.COM (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by noho.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.0+Sun/8.13.0) with ESMTP id j2PMmbf5011374 for ; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:48:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dmk@localhost) by noho.SFBay.Sun.COM (8.13.0+Sun/8.13.0/Submit) id j2PMmaJK011373 for fwarc-record@sun.com; Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:48:36 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 14:48:36 -0800 (PST) From: David Kahn Message-Id: <200503252248.j2PMmaJK011373@noho.SFBay.Sun.COM> To: fwarc-record@sun.com Subject: Re: closed approved fast-track: 2005/111 - sun4v bus bindings Status: RO Content-Length: 131 Note, this is case is approved for integration into a minor release of the firmware and a micro/patch release of the OS. -David